someone for 10 years, just because you signed a document saying we're divorced doesn't mean we're emotionally divorced yet. i really want the best for him. i hope he works it out. i hope he gets roommates and he's able to get work and a job. i think this is really going to be good for him. i think this is what he needed all along.

please contact us if you have our son. we'll work with your demands because we want him back. there was no crime scene, he just vanished. >> my husband and i feel we must do what we can as his parents. >> there was a lot of fear. they didn't catch perpetrator. something like this is going to happen again. >> but every time we found a clue, we ran into a brick wall. >> and, at that moment, when our eyes met, i knew i was going to hear exactly what happened to my son that day. . >> you have no idea what it's like to look for your missing child. it is hell on earth. >> a 30-year case is challenging.

it's a jigsaw puzzle with lots of missing pieces. >> the police say they have no crime. i have no son. the parents now believe the boy is alive and has been kidnapped. >> johnny, we love you. we're waiting for you to come home. >> please, let us know what you want as far as anything that we can do to have john return home to us safely. >> we're leaving the porch light on every night. moms are like that.

take care, babe. >> john and maureen gosh are sure their son is coming back. and the front porch light stays on until that happens. nobody saw anything that, to us, was an explanation for the boy's disappearance. this is just that unsolved, unexplained missing personal case. >> the 30th anniversary has gotten so much more impact. it represents a huge chunk of my son's life. all of those years that we missed, that he missed.

and you can't recapture that. ever. i was born and raised in eastern iowa. i got married relatively young. i was given the news my husband had cancer and there was no way for him to survive. but two months before he died, we were hit with a tornado. everything was destroyed. just a few short weeks later, my husband died. and i remember just trying to rest a little bit and my little girl came walking over to the couch. and she said are you going to die, too? like daddy? wake up call. time to get up. time to get moving. that experience, it either makes

you or breaks you. i was the adult. and i had to pull myself up by the boot straps. >> we met through a friend that i was in the marine corps with. >> we started dating and then we got married, had a nice wedding. and then a couple of years later, we had johnny. life was good. but we were a normal little family. that was our house right there. >> west kedes moines was a very peaceful, safe place. low in crime and everything else. >> johnny and i were best friends. i just remember nothing but happiness. you couldn't live in a better place or have a better environment. >> johnny just enjoyed doing so many things that he had such joy about it. >> any time that somebody had a

birthday or something, he would spend a lot of time getting the right package for him. >> if he had a pack of gum, he would hand out a slice to you and a slice to you and then look in the gum package and say oh, i don't have any left. he was that unselfish. >> johnny's first morning on his paper route, he did the sunday morning paper. and he had his way and he would deliver the paper together. he wanted the paper route because he wanted to get himself a dirt bike. >> he became quite the little businessman. he saved his money and he bought it. well then he and his brother would go riding out in the fields. >> that particular sunday, we get a phone call about 7:00 in the morning wondering where the

paper was. got up, got in the car, went to the corner and found a wagon. didn't see him anywhere around and told maureen, something is wrong. she called the police right away. >> it took about 45 minutes before the police arrived. >> the police department was only two blocks away. >> the cop looked at me and said has your son ever run away before? >> the kid never run away. that really upset us. >> i was there that morning. there happened to be a car on 42nd street. and there was a guy in there. he was talking to johnny gosh. he said hey, can you come over here and help this guy? all of the sudden, this car just swung -- he made a u-turn and took off. >> i thought it was kind of strange that he would do that. >> to say that somebody stopped and asked directions of a paper

boy, that would not be at all out of line. we still don't know what happened that morning. john apparently left the residence sometime around 5:45. there's a neighbor hearing the wagon being pulled through the back of his yard. mike was picking up his morning papers and noticed the car and stopped. backed up to the point where john gosh was walking and it appeared that john spoke briefly to the driver of the vehicle. >> people saw him talk with a man of the car. that car left johnny. >> the vehicle is described as a blue ford fairmount. >> that car came back. >> i think he told police he looked like he was mad or something. but who is to know? >> the next are two newspaper carriers. he says hi to johnny and

proceeds to where the newspaper has been dropped. at this time, t.j. smith reported hearing a car door and, upon sitting up in bed, he observed a silver and black ford fa fairmount start up from where john was last seen and then made a left turn rolling through the stop sign. >> the car ran the stoplight there and it turned left. there fact, his wagon was still sitting right there. >> the two newspaper carriers, they get their newspapers, turn around and walk back by the same kompber. when they walk by the wagons, there's the newspapers. no johnny. if you think running a restaurant is hard, try running four. fortunately we've got ink.

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this is where it would have occurred. the witness had said there was a car up here. and i think the wagon was left in this area with the papers in it. >> and shs you know, the trail gets cold real quick. you know, like all cops do, it's a run away. the kid ran away. no, this kid wasn't a run away. johnny would not run away. there was no crime scene and nobody saw anything that, to us, was an explanation for the boy's disappearance. he just vanished. >> at that time, when a kid disappeared, it was generally a kid who ran away from home. >> we were thinking that around the news room. you get the story in the paper.

by the time the paper gets delivered on the porches the next day, this kid is home in bed. >> it didn't seem like he was going to run away. >> no, no. the only thing was his car. i don't know. >> we began a systematic search from the last sighting of johnny gosh on out. >> thousands of people have been searching for the boy, but nothing positive has turned up. >> the one thing that was missing was the f.b.i. so i asked the police chief and he said, well, i don't really think we need the f.b.i. we just don't really have a crime here. we just don't really have a crime. and i said, well, that's funny. there's five witnesses that says we do. >> law enforcement authorities

have no new leads in the case and had few to begin with. the drivers of cars in the area have yet to come forward with information. a massive search has failed to turn up any clues in the case. >> we were told by government agencies, well, you have to prove that child is in danger. to us, he's a run away until you prove he's in danger. >> this story had moved from my son was abducted to a conflict with law enforcement of you're not doing enough, you're not running down the leads. >> remember this? i says i don't give a damn about what noreen gosch has to say. >> the police chief had a lot of personal problems and he was tired of the media coming down and bothering him and all of that sort of stuff.

>> you can almost go into a state of mind where you don't want to talk to anybody not ever again. >> noreen has not, nor ever has been, a shrinking violet. she will not stay home and cry in her handkerchief. she went out there, aggressively and rightfully so. >> things had not fired through as adequately as first. me and my husband felt we must do what we can as his pampbts. >> if you want to settle the case, you have to do some things. you can't just sit behind your desk and wait for the driver of the car to come and turn himself in. >> every assumption, we took him to heart and followed up on him. we did it by what is now the book. what we did that morning and what we've done before that were about the same.

slowly, the searches stopped. everybody went wac to their lives. we were told by the chief that they just couldn't direct anymore of the total police force to this case. and they were going to have to put the case on a back burner. i said to them we have to do something. >> we were contacted by ken wooden. >> newspaper boy missing and the dog was still there. and it was obvious. if the dog was still there, he has never run away. >> he said you have to get your own investigation going. >> two private investigators agreed to take the case and they began canvassing the area doing interviews with neighbors. up pulls the west des moines police and there was friction and debates starting.

every minute we wasted was wasting my son's life. that, i took personally. >> i think he needs our strength and support more than anything else. >> i think people would be shocked at what the real situation was in 1972. the f.b.i. would track your stolen car across state lines, but it would not track your stolen child across state lines. there was no infrastructure to support missing children. >> all of us were reading about the turmoil that was going on with the search. and none of us felt that was right, of course. but to help find johnny gosch foundation was something that they would have the confidence that this would keep going no matter what happened to them. >> the foundation was started

for changing the legislation, for law enforcements responding when a child is taken. >> you have no idea what it's like to look for your missing child. it is hell on earth. >> the two words went missing are fighting words to me. when there's evidence that they are kidnapped, then the word is kidnapped. not went missing. >> i understand that you got three phone calls just a week ago. was it johnny? >> yes, it was, jane. we received the first of three calls. they were six minutes apart and each phone call lasted about 40 seconds. >> what did he sound like? what did he say?

he was pleading for help and the phone was disconnected. on the second call, i assured him that we would find him and the phone was discon nekted again. they intentionally made the phone calls to be short. >> we feel that johnny was forced to make the calls, yes. >> who are they? any idea? >> we have descriptions of two men that were seen the morning he was disappeared. was it someone who was sexually crazy? or someone who put him into human tracking. >> scientifically, about half of the population are sexually attracted to children. they're going to appear from coach coaches to priests to police officers. >> this is a catalog, a catalog for ped files. a 45-year-old man seeks contact

with others interested in adolescent and preadolescent boys and girls. >> i feel that our son was kidnapped. it was for some very organized effort for profit. >> predators, especially wealthy vips, like the youpger the child, the better. there are people that know that, pimps, and they grab kids or they seduce kids and they become part of human trafficking. >> there was a lot of fear if they didn't catch the perpetrator, something like this was kwoigoing to happen again. that's what happened. >> holy [bleep], you know? >> we can't have any. and, all of the sudden, there was two paper boys gone. military life is different.

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so right now, this is all we have. this is what i call a composite description of the six witnesses. >> we've never had any. and all of the sudden, there was two paper boys gone. >> you just feel completely lost. you know, you don't know what to do, where to go, who to talk to. it's just like a movie being rerun. we felt like we were watching a movie except the actors were different. >> the boys were dissimilar in

most aspects other than their gender. >> the police say they cannot connect those two stories. which i find kind of incredible. there's so many similarities at the same day, time, conditions. how could you not think they were connected? >> how could it happen twice? michael, did your son know about the johnny gosch case? >> is it possible that the same person kidnapped both boys? or is that just a coincidence. >> at this point, it's possible. but there's a great many facts that are very striking. >> are you hopeful that the trail for eugene martin might lead to johnny, too? >> yes, we are.

>> i think people thought i can't believe this could happen here. this kind of stuff doesn't happen here. >> you're talking about the early 1980s. kids were out playing in the dark. their moms let them go to school unescorted. this was part of americana for a long, long time. and it's gone. and it started with those two stories. >> a lady called us about 1:00 at night and said she had received the bill in change in

sioux city, iowa. i said could you please send it to me and i'll send you a dollar back for it. that's what she did. >> he was somehow able to communicate that he was still alive. it was just such a helpless feeling. we have to try to make some attempt to the people that actually have him. >> this is the reason for this plea. he walked out the door and the kids were getting ready to have pizza. i'll never forget it as long as i live, as he walked out the doorway, save me some pizza, mom, i'll be hungry when i get home. and he waved when he got to the bushes and i waved to him and that was that. and i never saw him again.

>> we received a letter, a two-page typed written letter. it said i'll never be able to return home. they cut my hair. and it was signed, love your son, johnny gosch. from the time johnny could write, he always signed notes love, yourson johnny gosh. and the reason he did that is because his father's name was john, too. that was his identity. >> the wing thione thing that y, if your case goes long term, you don't start jumping up and down and say this is it. i hope we can check this out. but if it's not, i can handle it. when you crash down, it is def stating.

that became my vehicle for handling things. >> it seems every time i want to help people, it gets pushed right back in my face. every time i do it, i start fighting. >> all i remember him talking about is i was just supposed to hold this person down in the back of a car with the stuff over his face. >> and that was johnny? >> yeah. [ male announcer ] when ziggy the cat appeared at their door,

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and will deal with whatever penalty comes his way. the nra says it's standing his ground when it comes toe armed guards in the nation's schools. more later. now, back to our program. 24-year-old paul binozzi, a victim of sexual abuse since the age of six. he is, himself, a sex offender and has been diagnosed with multiple personality disorder. >> i can hear what these personalities are saying and stuff. >> we spoke to him recently at the state prison.

he shows us dozens of portraits drawn and signed by the personalities that haunt him. >> this is a bunch of different personalities right here. >> it is only through these personties that he remembers he helped kidnap johnny gosch. >> this guy probably wasn't capable of coming up with all of these voices. >> binossi says child pornography involving children as young as the age of six, had always been the reason behind johnny gosch's abduction. >> i felt sorry because i think he was going to go through more than i did. >> 10 days ago, he drew a map of the plan, it's a replica of one drawn by the kidnappers. this "x" marks the exact spot of the abduction. most people mistakingly believe it happened at the corner. >> when paul binozzi first

surfaced, i needed some time to sit down and meet with him. i could have strangled him. but i also know that he had been forced to do it. he had been a victim by the same people. >> the video just can't pick up how badly noreen gosch is shaking as she sees him for the first time. he fills out a consent form not knowing who this woman is. >> this is john's mother. >> just tell me what happened. please? >> i feel so -- i feel so bad about it because what they made me do. >> when he stepped forward to give us that information, he didn't get anything out of it.

so i had to admire the young man for the courage to do that. why did they want johnny? >> they wanted to use kids to get closer to families. >> why? >> they wanted to hurt people. >> they did a good job of that. they asked me about his family. >> did he ever know we were trying to find him? >> no. >> is everything that you're telling me the truth about johnny? >> yes, absolutely. >> for me, hearing all of this, it was like my whole body seized up. i kept thinking, i can't see anymore. but i have to. i have to hear the rest of what he has to say.

they kept him tied and gagged a good share of the time. the kidnappers took picture of that to either advertise him for sale or, in some way, entice another pedaphiloe to pay for services. >> he talked about some kind of medication. he said something about he had seen his mom do that or something. >> i had never told the press. it wasn't relevant to his kidnapping. >> these are all starting to fit a puzzle that are important things. they might be little things, but it's forming a picture. >> after viewing our unedited interview, west des moines police said binozzi said little to prove he had firsthand knowledge of the crime. >> there's no way you can say

right now that i'm convinced and we've got to go talk to him? you can't say that? >> i can't, myself, at this point, no. >> i would think after all of the frustration and all of the dead ends, what does it go and hurt to talk to him? why not do that? >> and so investigators from this department went to omaha. they did not interview paul binocci, but they did interview his siblings. his sublings put him in omaha at the time of the disappearances of josh. that's information that says we shouldn't continue to go down the path of paul binocci based on what siblings are saying. that's all you do is evaluate evidence. you can make a judgment on that. we'll standby what we're doing. >> do you realize you're hanging

all of your hopes on a child molester who's done unspeakable things to your son? >> there's just so many things that paul shared with us that would have been impossible for him to know had he not been with binozzi. >> there are things that he says are from members of the alleged sex ring that kidnapped johnny gosch. >> you think we can help johnny? you think he's a live? >> i would think you'd be kicking the doors down to want to talk to him at this point. >> when the time is right, again, i will reiterate. we may well interview him. but it will be when it's time to do it. >> it is a major cover up. >> we can't get law enforcement help. this is where we need it. we can't take somebody to court without them and they know it.

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real results. i know what it's like to search for your missing child. i know what it's like to not know what happened. so i thought, let's go back and look. maybe somebody will have the guts to finally tell us what happened to johnny. >> for ten years, there have been sightings, but johnny has never been found. two years ago, a convicted child molester surfaced and says he helped kidnap johnny. >> "america's most wanted" was

focused on missing children because our host, john, had his son abducted and killed. as the an versz ri approached to johnny's abduction, that was one of the stories we wanted to look at. we didn't know who we were going after. and we had a missing child who had been missing for ten years. the f.b.i. was waving us off right from the very beginning saying these are not credible witnesses. we don't believe this information is valid. >> did these people, when they get ahold of young kids and stuff, they force them to do things, they photograph it, they film it and the whole purr position of that is to blake mail them into staying with them or to split your mind up so that you don't remember who you are. >> there were so many facts that he seemed to know that the only way paul binozzi knew those facts was if he had talked to johnny. >> paul claims to have seen johnny on a trip to colorado

where he was being kept by a man called the colonel. >> i guess he tried to run away from them one time and they branded him. >> he talked about what were pretty amazing accusations. and then these kids started calling us. >> noreen received a letter after our broadcast signed by jimmy. >> this one kid came forward who had the brand and started confirming the story. we went to colorado. he said i'll show you the house where they used to keep us. and there it was. >> so what happened here? >> i almost couldn't do it.

i couldn't go near the house because the memories flooded back. >> before we went in that building, i described it. and there was a little grate. we pulled the grate off of stuff and they looked under and were like oh, no. >> there's the hole. it's abandoned. we go underneath it and sure enough, there's this chamber dug out under the house with kids' initials carved under the wood. every time we found a clue, we ran into a brick wall. the owner of the house was a fornler pris former prison guard who disappeared. >> nothing else that i encoun r encountered couldn't solve this case, then chances are no one would. and as i looked around, no one else was trying to solve the case.

that led to a horrible, horrible, horrible picture of young children being used to provide sexual pleasure for adults. and in so many of the cases, very prominent adults. >> i was on the witness stand

and i was asked during the question i questioning whether i had seen or talked to my son in all the years he had been missing. the judge instructed me i would have to answer or i'd be in contempt of court. so i said once i saw my son once. >> there was a knock on the door in the middle of the night. i went to the door and i could see a young man out in the hallway. i said who's there? he said it's me, mom, it's johnny. it's me mom, it's johnny. that was always his phrase rather than just saying it's johnny. so i let him in. i said let me call somebody to help. he immediately got upset. he said i can't stay.

they'll kill me if i stay. so i had a choice right then and there. i chose to listen. he shared some information about how they traffic the kids across the country and what they were used for. and then, in a very short time, it was over and he said i have to go. >> johnny gosch coming home to see his mom, would love to have been contacted, would love to verify that. can't answer for why that didn't happen. >> she says she didn't tell anybody it. she didn't tell her mother. she didn't tell the police, which i thought was kind of odd. her exfla nation was that he asked not to have this put out because it would endanger him. that's the last thing you'd want. >> it was very simple. my son asked me tot no say

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when i was in prison, i started getting visited by rev ren morroy from lincoln. i had a lot of hatred for all of the years of abuse. i told him all of that. and then one time, he told me, he says you know what? you're never going to get any better until you learn to forgive. give up the anger and the hatred. i remember going back to my cell saying i know that what he's saying is true. it doesn't mean he shouldn't have to answer for what they've done, it just meant i wasn't going to let them destroy me anymore. the only person i'm destroying by hating them wasn't them, it was me.

>> i could not get my breath. i thought i was going to pass out by seeing my son like that. >> if you look closer at this one, there is a dark area that is not a shadow. it's a birth mark that johnny always had up in the upper area

of his chest. the hair texture looked similar, but the face was too small. we can scan in that entire image, isolate the face. but to make it larger, it gets really worse. and all of the details that we're looking for just aren't there. it wasn't a good candidate for a serious facial come parson. first of all, there's no birthmark on his chest and the picture doesn't everyone look like him. his feet were much larger than that even when he was kidnapped. so even if he lost a lot of weight, your feet still stay the sam length.

>> we identified some of the individuals in this picture. these pictures did not have johnny gosch in them. >> these boys were all from florida. this is a case that i worked in 1979. it was a case that involve d several boys tied up and gagged. there was no doubt in my mind that the subject was a pedophile. >> have you ever seen this before? >> i can't say that i remember that one, no. it was 33 years ago. i can't really recall this one. >> those photographs are my son and, you know, it matters not to me if people think it isn't

johnny. we know that it is. what do you think happened to johnny? >> i don't have a clue. there's all of these options. whether a stranger came by, grabbed him, sold him, who knows? there are a lot of missing people in this country that they never get resolved. when your best friend is taken away, it never gets resolved. >> i know he's out there.

>> you almost have a guilt on the way things turned out for you. you have to live with what if. i guess we live with what ifs all the of the time. >> we have an individual who has never come back and say oh, i was that person. if that person, today, would say i'd sure like to help noree noreen gosch understand what happened and come forward, i'd really like that to happen. >> why on earth would johnny want to come forward and be scrutinized like he's some kind